# Re: Criticism of Kidcode (was Re: KidCode: Next steps )

Stephen D. Williams (sdw@lig.net)
Tue, 20 Jun 1995 13:54:07 -0400 (EDT)

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    From: sdw@lig.net (Stephen D. Williams)

    Subject: Re: Criticism of Kidcode (was Re: KidCode: Next steps )

    To: nazgul@utopia.com (Kee Hinckley)

    Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 13:54:07 -0400 (EDT)

    In-Reply-To: <v02120d12ac0ca54ccfa4@[204.57.39.3]> from "Kee Hinckley" at Jun 20, 95 12:37:45 pm

>
> At 3:41 PM 6/19/95, lilley wrote:
> >Those influential (and monied) groups who care about such things can then
> >finance the proxies and their URC resolvers to implement whatever type
> >of cens^H^H^H^Hfiltering is desired.
>
> A proxy based system really doesn't scale, money or no-money.

I think you're wrong: All ISP's, companies, and Internet sites with more
than a few users should have proxies for http, ftp, nntp (Newsservers
are the most common proxy of course). Of course single global proxies
don't work, but neither would a small set of central news servers.

Local proxies (aggregating gateways) Reduce load on upstream sites.
This causes the whole net to scale better.

That is part of why I say that having user configured filtering at
an ISP level proxy is a perfect way to introduce ratings/filtering/selecting.

I'm pressed for time now, so I'm slow in implementing the following, but
I'll put out the design in case anyone has time on their hands:

(This assumes you've read my previous postings to rating@junction.net. Email
for a repeat. Note that I spent a fair amount of time researching possible
meta-data formats. There are several competing 'future standards' currently.)

Create a form that allows a user to select filtering information for
primary and secondary users (children). Also allow selection of meta
information to be categorized or search upon. This could be used
to highlight desired information that is new. (from www-announce, site-wide
.meta files, comprehensive ratings servers, etc.)

I'm planning on creating a cgi program that compares it's arguments with
a database of sites, users, and cached information. To begin with, it
would match based on IP address. Later, it would prompt for user information
at the beginning of a session.

Either through configuration or through modifications (I'm going to either user
cern_http or spinner), map all URL's to /cgi-bin/filter/*. For each document,
access a local .meta file, then site/.meta, then site/directory/.meta, then
URL.meta, in reverse order. Read document, scanning for <meta> tags.
Create the cached URL.meta file.
Compare to user settings.
Either return document, or return page showing why page was unavailable.

For a user to use, they only have to point their client to this proxy server.

> Kee Hinckley Utopia Inc. - Cyberspace Architects=81 617/721-6100
> nazgul@utopia.com http://www.utopia.com/
>
> I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
> responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
> everyone else's.

sdw

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