# Re: URNs and Meta-Information - The Value of ISBN

Chris Weider (clw@merit.edu)
Mon, 18 Oct 93 18:42:51 -0400

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    Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 18:42:51 -0400

    From: "Chris Weider" <clw@merit.edu>

    Message-Id: <9310182242.AA25291@merit.edu>

    To: drobison@library.Berkeley.EDU, hoymand@joe.uwex.edu

    Subject: Re: URNs and Meta-Information - The Value of ISBN

The naming authority can assign a single URN to an object in all its formats,
or can assign a URN to each format of the object. The choice is up to the
naming authority. There are two basic functionalities of the URN that Peter
and I have laid out in our paper; the first is to serve as a location-
independent (and access method independent) reference to a networked object.
The second, and less critical in my view, is allowing the removal of duplicate
objects in a list of objects returned by a resource location service. The
first functionality is maintained whether the publisher assigns format-
independent URNs or not; this functionality is also maintained whether multiple
naming authorities name an object. It's only the second function that's
obfuscated (I've always wanted to use that word in casual conversation :^) )
in the cases you mention.

Chris Weider

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> As a Librarian and Internet Publisher, I see two potenetial problems
> with the current URI plan (as far as I have been able to follow the
> discussion). First, allowing the publisher to assign a single URI
> to an object in its many formats obfuscates the fact that different
> formats af a document (as well as different versions) have different
> meaning. Second, allowing multiple naming authorities (ID Authorities)
> the ability to name identical objects with different URIs seems to
> contradict the purpose of the URI in the first place. If "U" stands
> for Uniform, then a particular object, in all of its instances, should
> have the same URI.

> Or am I missing something?

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